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How to: Draft How to: Draft

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Old 16th March 2008
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As seen at RSC.

There seems to two main forms of Drafting.

"Bump Drafting":is where you hit another car in the rear and push them along.

"Slam Drafting": is where you hit another car, but at a higher rate of speed.

You should always try and achive 'Bump Drafting' and really only attempt to enter the draft on a stright.

To keep your speed up and not loose much time lifting (or get run over), try dragging the brake while your foot is still down. This should allow you to bump without slamming.

When drafting, the front car will make a hole in the air, the car behind can close up in the gap without using as much power as the air resistance is less. When afew cars get together, it allows the air to flow over more of them without causing as much 'dirty' air/turbulence.



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So the cars behind actually push the car in front?
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yep

actually the theory of drafting is, when you draft the air won't go over the spoilers (like in the picture), so your car will loose a lot of drag and so build up more speed (so to say the car in front also benefit from the draft)
Bump/slam drafting is more when the car behind you has build up more speed than you (because of the draft) and so has a higher speed then you, but the problem is the only to benefit to keep going faster is to bump the one in front of you a bit so he also gets more speed and so you continue (if you have the higher speed and try to pass, you will loose that speed immediately as you get out of the drafting pack & meet a lot of wind resistance)
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Yes with drafting the "Theory" is that if for augements sake your in second place and you are drafting of the first place driver. You should be able to hold the same speed as the leader but with only 80 - 90% of the throttle giving you the ability to slingshot passed him on the corner. But you have to take into account that as soon as you brake from his drag that you will pick lots of wind reistance. Thus impacting on any speed you may have had.

From what I have read its all in gauging how mutch less throttle you have than the person in front of you and timing when to add the extra throttle as you exit his draft and either enter or exit the corner providing the slingshot.

*Small Note:

When you are drafting there is a point where you can you can benafit from the car infront of you by using his draft you will:
A. Use less throttle to maintain the same speed
B. Use less fule maitaining that speed.

But that said there is also a point that if you are too close you will have no benafit what so ever. (usally within the 10-8mm mark)
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best way to pass is to give some room between you and guy infront and then drive right back up and pass with all tha extra speed
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I cant wait for Bump and slam drafting practice

Stockcar is the only type of racing i want somebody to hit me
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I cant wait for Bump and slam drafting practice

Stockcar is the only type of racing i want somebody to hit me
LOL. I warn you. Donīt slam intentionally. :p

Itīs getting great tomorrow. I`m sure
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Hey guys....

I see you posted credits to me, but I just asked for Drafting advice over there, I didn't post the HOW-TO's or anything, lol.

Just don't want to take credit for something I didn't do.

Thanks for making me almost sound useful though!!!!!
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Yes with drafting the "Theory" is that if for augements sake your in second place and you are drafting of the first place driver. You should be able to hold the same speed as the leader but with only 80 - 90% of the throttle giving you the ability to slingshot passed him on the corner. But you have to take into account that as soon as you brake from his drag that you will pick lots of wind reistance. Thus impacting on any speed you may have had.
Would it be fair to say that now you have started to pass, or broken the drafting, the lead car will also feel the effects of the single car draft and thus slow also?
Which in turn will mean its going to be a problem for both cars?

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Indeed,

2 cars are faster than one, The rear car will have more power in reserve tho to overtake as it wasnt punching the hole in the air at first, They key is once you start your move, get past as fast as possible because your car will start to slow down due to them both having the same resistance. In turn the leading car will aswell, but more than the following car.

Bump drafting, well thats another story. It takes a while to get used to it but man its a good giggle.
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Well said Mr. Hickling Sir :alla:
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If you want to add some more spice to the discussion you can chuck in side draft as well .
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The problem is when the guy in front wants bump drafting and you want to overtake.... but thats why we have pace cars on standby
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Bump drafting should be reserved to the super speedways only in my view, Its crazy on a short track or speedway. :ambulance:
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Side Drafting is a nice effect, though I doubt that ASR does not support it. And yes Bump Drafting should be done only on Super Speedways like Daytona or Talladega. On Short Tracks there is a special description for it: BumpīNīRun. That is if you bump someone from behind to make him unstable to say to him: Hey iīm faster, please let me by ;)

This should be done in a friendly way of bumping. Not to spin someone out. I did this last week at Milwaukee withone, donīt remember the name anymore but it was fun watching the replay. He got a real troubled wiggle out there
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i need to get back into ARCA soon Gillets taking time trying to make that bugger go fast
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On Short Tracks there is a special description for it: BumpīNīRun. That is if you bump someone from behind to make him unstable to say to him: Hey iīm faster, please let me by ;)

This should be done in a friendly way of bumping. Not to spin someone out. I did this last week at Milwaukee withone, donīt remember the name anymore but it was fun watching the replay. He got a real troubled wiggle out there
Bump n run thats what i was thinking of, One little tap and watch them run up the track mid corner, Ofcourse its real easy for it to go tits up.
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And the good thing is that it works with ARCA Sim Racing as well due to it superior netcode
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This should be done in a friendly way of bumping. Not to spin someone out. I did this last week at Milwaukee withone, donīt remember the name anymore but it was fun watching the replay. He got a real troubled wiggle out there


yeaaaaahh suuuuuuuuuure you don't know the name anymore
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hehehehe. I just wanted to avoid that your Head would turn red :jumping:
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I did this last week at Milwaukee withone, donīt remember the name anymore but it was fun watching the replay. He got a real troubled wiggle out there
I didn't receive a bump 'n' run - I got a thump 'n' run...

A little tap into the corner and watch me spin up the track .

"I wasn't trying to wreck him... I just wanted to rattle his cage" :brancard:.

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Like a high percentage of my fellow Brits (the ones I know anyway) I used to look at this kind or racing as if it was a waste of time. Although having tried a couple of NASCAR games and mods recently I have discovered a new respect for it.

Its not simply about going really fast and turning left, but theres a technical aspect such as the draft technique to keep your speed up. Sadly I am not very good at ovals. Funny considering I used to look at it like it was a waste of time. Anyone can go in a circle eh! :p

Made an interesting read to see all you views on drafting and how it should be used, thanks.
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Its not simply about going really fast and turning left, but theres a technical aspect such as the draft technique to keep your speed up. Sadly I am not very good at ovals. Funny considering I used to look at it like it was a waste of time. Anyone can go in a circle eh! :p

Made an interesting read to see all you views on drafting and how it should be used, thanks.
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