Cutting busstop

[Christopher Aponte]

Originally Posted by Neil Gault

interesting that you think that the line used is wrong and that the track was cut, the pic i showed was the line taken by Henrik Roos from the in game time trial training lap, if you follow his lap you will see he uses the curbs as part of the track of several places and not just the bus stop.

sorry for being such an idiot right now.....but who?

is it one of the challenge in GTR2?

well if he drove that line....then he can do that under the organization that is is driving in........maybe they can let it go with that cutting.

but you have to remember, we have made our own set of rules to make racing more fun & respectful...& one of them is being that those kind of cutting are not permitted
this is to avoid people using or pushing the in game cutting limit to see how fast they can go.

i hope it is clear now

[Yoeri Gijsen]

Originally Posted by Neil Gault

there is no such option, you can set it to record race laps or training laps or both in your plr file but nothing to record qualifying laps.

I would be interested to see if you guys think this line through the busstop is a cut or not

According to article 48-51 of the League regualtions this one is ok.

2 wheels on track (white lines + curbs)
2 wheels off track, but on tarmac
no wheels on the grass/gravel traps

So it's ok with me.

I still have to check the Briefing though!

[Neil Gault]

Originally Posted by Yoeri Gijsen

According to article 48-51 of the League regualtions this one is ok.

2 wheels on track (white lines + curbs)
2 wheels off track, but on tarmac
no wheels on the grass/gravel traps

So it's ok with me.

I still have to check the Briefing though!

ye thanks, just a bit confusing sometimes trying to interpret the rules as the curbs are normally part of any track and even reading this leagues rules they kind of acknowledge that when they state

"49. The track is the tarmac between the (white or yellow) lines and the curb stones.
Grass, sand- and gravel traps and tarmac behind the lines are not considered part of the
track."

it is always a touchy subject as no one knows where that invisible line is, easy to see on a replay but not so easy when at the wheel, it is often easier and less trouble for all when it is left for the game to judge who was cutting or not, not so good for a short sprint but for a 90 minute race then cut 3 is a auto stop n go penalty i think.

[Mark Jarvis]

Originally Posted by Neil Gault

ye thanks, just a bit confusing sometimes trying to interpret the rules as the curbs are normally part of any track and even reading this leagues rules they kind of acknowledge that when they state

"49. The track is the tarmac between the (white or yellow) lines and the curb stones.
Grass, sand- and gravel traps and tarmac behind the lines are not considered part of the
track."

it is always a touchy subject as no one knows where that invisible line is, easy to see on a replay but not so easy when at the wheel, it is often easier and less trouble for all when it is left for the game to judge who was cutting or not, not so good for a short sprint but for a 90 minute race then cut 3 is a auto stop n go penalty i think.

yes i totally agree with that... well put...

[Ramon van Rijn]

Disagree; RD have clear rules and some tracks needs some clarify in the briefings. Thats easy as that.

If you depend on the track rules the racing standard will become worse and worse. On some tracks they are ok, on many tracks not. Not to speak about custom tracks which sometimes completely lack of cutting rules.

PS. I think I touched parts on the beyond-curb-but-not-grass also in my hotlap.

[Yoeri Gijsen]

It's definitely tricky. We've considered the option of not watching it at all many times already. The big problem remains that the games do not consequently handle the issue, which results in a very unrealistic placement of the boundaries. Therefore we have created them oursleves. Now you always know what you can expect and you have to drive realistic lines on the track.

We do not go about tiny little cuts, we go about significant chunks, so don't worry too much about the subject.