G25 Settings

[Steve Jones]

Hi

I would really like to know what your settings are in Windows and ingame for the G25. I'm struggling to find a configuration i'm comfortable with.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

[Attila Domján]

Well, maybe not the answer what you are looking for, but when i had it my setup was:
At Windows:
- turn off FF
- set up centering spring to 135% strength
- wheel roataion to 180 degrees

Ingame:
- turn off FF

That was the best for me. Yeah, i know, i killed all those nice force feedback effects....

[Steve Jones]

Thats interesting m8

I used to race Nascar 2003 without FF because i could never really understand what it was trying to tell me. Over the years playing GTR etc i've adjusted to the FF but i'm still not happy.

I like the idea of putting the centre spring up - at least that way you dont have a loose wheel.

I will try it and see how i get on.

[Jamie Wilson]

The FF output from the game should, if it's done properly, act as a centering spring - If you want to take full advantage of the FF system in a given game, you should have it set to 0%. You can have it on to suppliment the FF, but I'm personally against the idea as I prefer the idea of getting exactly what the game is telling me.

Spring effect strength and damper effect strength should be set to 0% - they're more there for compatability with old games than anything else. Your global effects strength though should be set to 101% due to a tiny glitch in the drivers; you'll get slightly more nuanced FF that way.

As for steering wheel rotation, I've done a bit of research on this recently and come up with a few things:

(2 x [Max] Steering Lock) x Steer Ratio = Rotation

Rotation/(2 x Steer Ratio) = Steering Lock

Ratio = Rotation/(2 x Steering Lock)

If you want to emulate the car you're driving 1:1, you need to know it's steering ratio. A road going BMW E46 has a ratio of 15.4:1 (3 turns), I happen to know, so:

1080/(2 x 19.6) = 35.0 ideal lock, if we had a 1080 degree wheel.

'Wrapping' this to a maximum allowed lock (thanks Simbin! :/) of 23, the ideal rotation would be:

2 x 23 x 15.4 = 708.4 ideal rotation.

If you just want roughly the right feel for GT/Touring cars, then start off with 540/23 and if that's too snappy, go to 640-680 or so. If the rotation of the in-game wheel is set, to, say, 270 degrees, you can use the equations above to work out the ideal steering lock value for that rotation.

Hope that helped.

[Steve Jones]

Thanks Jamie, thats very helpful m8.

I know its all down to personal preference but it nice to know what other guys are doing.

I'll see how i get on.

[Mark]

If you want to emulate the car you're driving 1:1, you need to know it's steering ratio. A road going BMW E46 has a ratio of 15.4:1 (3 turns),

Just interested, where did you get that from mate ?

[Jamie Wilson]

A lot of googling - that's the hardest thing to find out.

It's a case of having to settle for roughly the right feel for WTCC/F3000/FBMW cars, by observing onboard footage and noting when they hit the lockstops and scaling that down accordingly to match the 23 degree limit.

I have, though, managed to alter the rotation of the in-game wheel, but only in the offline version where the files (*.inccar) are accessible. It might work with the online one but it could cause mismatches. It's all a bit smoke-and-mirrors, it'd be much easier if they just gave us a damn option.

If you're wondering what rotation the in-game wheel uses by default btw, WTCC cars use 242 and the F3K/FBMW/Radicals use 195. Interestingly both the Radicals and the Caterhams' steering lock value goes way up to 38 with that tiny wheel rotation which looks just a little bit more than silly on the road.

[Mark]

Ok , well I have an E46 sitting outside thats all

My own guestimates are as following.

From what I can see with a crude protractor, I have around 35 degrees angle on the road wheels and around 990 degrees of lock.

That in theory should roughly equate to 900/32 and 450/16 and 270/10 etc etc