Still wreckers?

[Ramon van Rijn]

Yesterday I was trying to do some qualify on LimeRock.

I was wrecked 4 times while I was off the racing line to let others pass.
I tried to drive the rest of the minutes as safe as possible to safe my rating, but not enough time... Thanks to the wreckers I am again down on the rating.

So its not a guarantee for safe racing this SR stuff!

[Bram Hengeveld]

I think there always be people like you describe. It was a common problem in Codemasters ToCa/DTM series which had somekind of ELO rating system. Once you had a great rating there were always people that tried to punt you off so you would drop dramaticly.
Sad to hear this happens in a game where at the moment only invitees are allowed. Nice friends some betatesters must have :S

[Sascha Henken]

You can if beeing wrecked intentionally request an official to review what happened. Just write down the playername who wrecked you and post it officially on the iRacing forums for a check. I´m pretty sure you get somewhere with it

[Attila Domján]

Originally Posted by Bram Hengeveld

I think there always be people like you describe. It was a common problem in Codemasters ToCa/DTM series which had somekind of ELO rating system. Once you had a great rating there were always people that tried to punt you off so you would drop dramaticly.

As i remember we raced there mainly without collosion, as ghost cars, good old days....

[Bram Hengeveld]

Originally Posted by Attila Domján

As i remember we raced there mainly without collosion, as ghost cars, good old days....

But it was sad to drive without collission only because of those *#*# (you know) But great times it were for sure! Maybe we should do a racing club night of toca, haha

Back on topic, sorry for the polution Ramon

[Ramon van Rijn]

Can't see who was it... You don't have driver names. I had F3 not on at the time. And can't save replays in iRacing (yet).
Pretty lame!

[Daniel Pettit]

'Safe Racing' is an illusion i fear. There is no way for sure to guarentee it as even the most careful and controlled driver will occassionally misjudge things. It's one of those things that just happens.

After a race the other night where people were being over careful, i would even say the Safety rating is increasing the chance of accidents not reducing it.

[Simon Trendell]

As far as I know the replays are still saved on iRacing's end, if you reported the problems I think they can check their replays. It's always worth a shot

[Thomas]

Sad to here about the wreckers experience. Me for once i am thrilled about being able to race so cleanly with people whom i do not know.

I have a problem with qualifier thou. If you for some odd reason choose to go around at 90KM/H why don't people drive with an eye in the mirror and think? Why do they stay in the middle... That makes me mad! And i can be mad. I huff and puff and ...

Well, so far, the overall experience is less wreckers. And many great races. (For my part).

[Ramon van Rijn]

For now, that was the only bad experience. Did some qualify again and was good ;)

[Sascha Henken]

Originally Posted by Ramon van Rijn

For now, that was the only bad experience. Did some qualify again and was good ;)

Qualifying has the advantage that you might start up in front instead from inbetween of the field. There will be always people that will wreck you, whether intentionally or unintentionally. You can´t do anything about it unless suffient complaints are beeing made on their forums. Maybe it´s hard to see who the wrecker was but with the F3 screen it should be possible to find out.

[Hansi Josefsson]

Originally Posted by Sascha Henken

Qualifying has the advantage that you might start up in front instead from inbetween of the field. There will be always people that will wreck you, whether intentionally or unintentionally. You can´t do anything about it unless suffient complaints are beeing made on their forums. Maybe it´s hard to see who the wrecker was but with the F3 screen it should be possible to find out.

But with somewhat reduced rating loss if you get hit by someone else would be easier to accept, I believe. It is really annoying that what Ramon states.

[Gary Lennon]

Im getting a bit sick of the rating thing and general high volume of donuts and wreckers in iRacing personally.

[Simon Trendell]

The SR does need to be toned down a small bit. Almost back above 4.00 for me now, I would already had someone pushing way too hard hadn't spun back on track been more sensible about their driving.
All the wreckers in iRacing are overdriving, most of my incidents are solo because I ride curbs and then get caught by the grass or lose the rear of the skippy.

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[Ricky Willox]

Personaly ive never been wrecked intentionally. Although ive had my fair share of wrecks with people trying to dive bomb corners and just generally trying to pass where its not safe. But thats racing its no different in any other sim other than the fact you now get penalised for it. People doing this all the time will have problems keeping a safety rating high enough to progress and given time if you are a safe clean driver you should end up racing other drivers of the same callibre.

To be honest most of my Safety rating hits come from me pushing to hard and spinning or going of track. Guess what that is nobody's fault but mine I need to learn to drive better basically and the safety rating is helping me do that.

So I like the SR. To keep it high i have to drive better and avoid off track incidents and other ppls wrecks.

The no blame system may seem harsh but it would be pretty much impossibe to apportion blame fairly all the time in my opinion, unless there was a human watching every race.

[Karl Westman]

I must say the the SF system has grown on me. First, in the beginning week I had some major doubts as the system has a "no blame" penalty. In the Rookie Solstice races I was hit from behind and taken out two or three times, in all of the instances the "wrecker" clearly didn't use his brakes.

But, as soon as I could I entered the Advanced Solstice Series and then advanced to the Skip Barber after another two races. In both of these series the driving is much better. The past Skip Barber races has been a blast, many of my competitors have been a class C or class D driver. I just finished a race in which I had close racing with several drivers. They all had good awareness and there were no contact what so ever for the entire race

The only problem that's still persistent is the odd fellow rookie who hasn't understood the concept of the "F3" screen. Some rookie drivers would also benefit from using their rear view mirror and be more aware of other cars in near proximity.

But, as I've already said: the competition and the level of the drivers are like "night and day" in the Skip Barber series compared to the Rookie Solstice series.

So, my recommendation is to hang in there. Drive safe and get a SF of 4.0 then join the Skip Barber and never look back...

Kind regards,
Karl

[Ramon van Rijn]

Lol, this topic is bumped from dust
Last time I drove in iRacing is now 5/6 weeks ago. I will end my subscription again. Don't like the only the lonely driving without a team/community around.
Also I have already paid 3 months, 2 cars and 1 track and still RACE 07/rFactor gives me more pleasure.

Who knows in a year if iRacing understand that you need more features and a community feeling and not only a laserscanned car/track + slightly advanced physics.
My 2cents.

[Karl Westman]

Originally Posted by Ramon van Rijn

Don't like the only the lonely driving without a team/community around.

This is something I fully agree on. If there were one thing I could change in iRacing is the community / private series.

Even though the pick-up race format has it's advantages, I do get the feeling of loneliness every now and then. How good for me that the Race Department is still around and evolving

Kind regards,
Karl

[Steve Emmons]

I'm just getting started and I know the feeling of being on the track by yourself running laps. It feels kind of isolated... There are some things I like about iRacing, but not sure this is one of them. There may be enough good things about iRacing though that Karl is right when he says to ride it out, and move up and on. Guess it's time to work on my SR and brave the rookies...

[Shane Thompson]

I have yet to see wreckers, in any of my races

[Jarkko Rantajoki]

Theres some bad driving occasionally, mainly in the rookie races.
I havent seen many real brainfarts in the Skip Barber series..
Unfortunately game doesnt have any interesting content for me so i might have to give up on in few months.