Maybe going to cancel my account temporarily

[Sascha Henken]

I will propably cancel my account at the end of the trial subscription period end of July The reason is that i´m not satisfied with the current ingame content and the costs of additional tracks and cars. Also i´m tired of those 40 lappers sprintraces with the Legends. I´ll consider to join iRacing again when it supports longer races with Full Flag Rules, Pitstop Strategies etc. etc. etc. This sounds negative but it isn´t. It´s just a personal feel. I´m not a big lover of sprintraces anyway. iRacing is a great platform but lags of features i´m looking for in its current stage.

[Ricky Willox]

Sorry to se you go.

But I understand your reasons there is a lack of features that are really needed for running ovals, but hopefully these will be added in the future and it might draw you back in.

You could race with us roadies until they arrive

Ricky

[Ramon van Rijn]

The road racing lacks features too. Can't believe such simple things are just missing. Fuel amount? Flags? Replays?

I will give them 3 months max.

[Sascha Henken]

Originally Posted by Ricky Willox

lack of features that are really needed for running ovals

You could race with us roadies until they arrive

Ricky

Well Ricky. It´s not missing only with Oval Racing it´s missing in general. Road Courses don´t use Flag Rules either. But that´s not my main concern about iRacing. I should state that iRacing isn´t yet officially launched to the public so maybe iRacing LLC. will propably add more features until they open the doors to the general public but as for myself I have seen enough for my taste and i´ll stick with other simracing titles like ASR, Race07 and what not

And Sprint Races are really not what i´m aiming for. I don´t know what iRacing will add in the future, if they extend their services to support League Events or to make it possible for League Admins to open up own rooms and conditions to their liking. Unfortunately iRacing seems not to be the platform for League Racers but more for the people who just don´t have the time for long races and League attendences and therefore I think iRacing will stick with the current racing schedule model.

[Simon Trendell]

Sorry to hear that Sascha, I'm with Ramon though to keep their current subscribers they need to really get some of these vital features implemented that every other sim does (it might not be perfect but it's there) and soon.

[Sascha Henken]

Originally Posted by Simon Trendell

...to keep their current subscribers they need to really get some of these vital features implemented...

Wow. That would mean that iRacing staff is just incompetent to improve their software without "us" money givers? Such simple things don´t need "us" to improve the software. They had enough Beta Testers to implement such stuff. And it´s always the same: Rush out with the software to make profit and lacking simple stuff that every simracing game has by default and let "us" do the rest by complaining about software. It´s the similiar way ARCA Sim Racing went through. Just my oppinion.

As i´ve said before:

iRacing is worth the money but not at its current stage, at least not for me. I want to see more which I won´t see until i´ve payed them frequently my $20/month for the next 6 months or so, until it gets interesting for me. That´s a no go for me. Therefore i´m finished by now and will rejoin later this year.

Whatever. Kudos to iRacing. It´s a great platform for those who are only looking for sprint races and who are fanatics when it comes to statistics. I think i´ve just expected to much and got disappointed.... ;)

[Clive Siggs]

Well I think you have basically said what I've been thinking Sascha. Maybe I'm being too hard when I say that I think it's a case of needing to bring in the customers to pay off a few debts and to fund further developments. Or maybe I'm wrong, who knows?! In which case I will give them my support, so that they can create something special. I just hope that they don't take our money and then run!

[Daniel Pettit]

Right now i'm going to give up at the end of the month too. I'm already fed up of driving the god-awful soltice around, especially now the road racing is on Leguna Seca (you almost have to change down to get that thing to go uphill!)

Its so frustrating because it would take so little to completly turn it around for me, dropping of the saftey rating, inclusion of the Skip Barber as the entry level ... anything to get me away from poottling round in the piss poor Pontiac.

Last night I logged into iRacing just before 22:00 for the race but was only on for a few minutes before i accepted that what I actually wanted to do was go right back to the new rFactor mod. I was rewarded with a 45 car race at VLM mid-ohio in a mixed class Historics race all running nice and smooth with very enjoyable and quite beliveable physics..... and not an incident point or feeble solstice in sight

Lets hope some changes are made soon and this game can become what it should be and deserves to be.

[Simon Trendell]

I'm pretty much out of the solstice now with an SR above 4 I can join the skippy races (but not without some practice).
For Laguna try the advanced solstice if you can it feels alot better for that circuit.

I'm signed up for a year so I'll be expecting some big developments by the end of that term. For me it'll probably end up being a game I play on evenings where there are no race nights, eventually.

[Cully]

I feel and i think most race iracing for its pure realism physics engine and laser scanned tracks.
I know i couldnt care about flags pitstops etc at this stage,im sure its all planned but the meat of any online racing sism is its physics and netcode,nothing comes close to iracing in this department.
Also the graphics are far superior to any sim out there which is a nice bonus.

I raced the solstice for a day and went on the the skip barber,i havent touched the solstace since.
Dont base iracing on just the legends and solstice,try the skippy and feel the full potential of iracing.

It´s a great platform for those who are only looking for sprint races

I dont call a rookie 35 minute race a sprint race,when you move on to class D its 60 minute races, with even longer races for A,B and C grades.

Reading you guys in here i really feel you are basing iracing on the entry cars.
These cars are exactky what iracing want people to start out in.
Im simracing over 12 years and found like pretty much everyone else ,i needed to start allover again with iracing.
This is real,its real beyond any other sim out there.
Yes the solstice in particular is a pain,but after a few hours you can move on to the skippy.

Run clean time trials and watch your irating spiral skywards,trust me when i say you havent playing iracing until you raced the skippy

Just my opinion but you guys seem to be forming opinions on the sim too quickly.

[Simon Trendell]

I have raced the Skippy and it is fun but too many people are sticking with the Solstice which means that I end up in a group with people 2-3 seconds a lap faster than me so after 10'ish laps I'm lapping alone again. I actually enjoy racing the Solstice.

35 minutes for a oval race is quite short, Sascha, myself & a few others from RD did a full length Daytona race in ARCA and in all it took 1hr 20mins.

I'm afraid that for now iRacing is going to alienate some people because of a lack of real features, like flag rules. There's also a problem with a minority in the iRacing community who are "elitist" and want iRacing to perfectly simulate real life and if you don't have the equipment then tough.
iRacing should remove the ability to use seqential or paddles in H-Pattern cars
iRacing should remove the Virtual mirror
iRacing should remove the recovery
iRacing should remove the HUD
iRacing should make you pay with real money to repair your car <-- That one is real honest

[Cully]

35 minutes for a oval race is quite short, Sascha, myself & a few others from RD did a full length Daytona race in ARCA and in all it took 1hr 20mins.

Like i said once you get a grade D licence your looking at 60 min races.
Personally im more into road courses so 35 for rookies on a road course is plenty imo.
Later on when people become more competent and experienced they can tackle longer distances

[Sascha Henken]

I´ve purchased the Skippy now. Now I need to get to 4.0 with the stupid friggin Solstice which is soooo boring. I hope I will be there in a couple of days. I try to stay outta trouble but once I stay out of trouble some wreckers turn up, hitting me and I spin around offtrack getting penalty points. Wow.

[Simon Trendell]

Good luck, it's back to Lime Rock for the Solstice next week & the Skippy too. Kind of lazy to have two series run the same track..
I'm trying to get my Class D for which I need 4x TT or 2x Races in the advanced legends... which I hate.

[Daniel Pettit]

Lime rock might encourage me to get to 4.0 rating ... leguna in the soltice was a chore beyond what i was willing to do with my free time

[Ricky Willox]

Id say go the boring route if you have trouble with people crashing into you, and time trial my way to a 3 SR and then jump into the advanced Solstice.
The races just seem cleaner to me. Also not qualifying and just running a reasonable pace at the back, passing only the cars that are much slower than me helps get the SR up.
Im over 4 in both oval and road now but wont be attempting any Skippy races just yet cant keep the thing out of the tire walls at VIR South.

[Sascha Henken]

For the time beeing, i´ve done the step right now and cancelled my iRacing subscription. I hope later this year iRacing gets more comprehensive and hopefully iRacing considers their pricing model one more time. It was fun playing it for 2 weeks but the astonishment of iRacing just faded away. See yall maybe later this year when iRacing gets more attractive

[Daveooo]

Originally Posted by Sascha Henken

I will propably cancel my account at the end of the trial subscription period end of July The reason is that i´m not satisfied with the current ingame content and the costs of additional tracks and cars. Also i´m tired of those 40 lappers sprintraces with the Legends. I´ll consider to join iRacing again when it supports longer races with Full Flag Rules, Pitstop Strategies etc. etc. etc. This sounds negative but it isn´t. It´s just a personal feel. I´m not a big lover of sprintraces anyway. iRacing is a great platform but lags of features i´m looking for in its current stage.

I swear some people don't read the FIRST code sporting rule book PDF that's on iracing. http://members.iracing.com/membersit...ode_042408.pdf

It quite clearly states the following....


Rookie 20 Minutes races, max drivers 12
Class “D” 30 Minutes races, max driver 14
Class “C” 45 Minutes races, max driver 20
Class “B” 60 Minutes races, max drivers 30
Class “A” 60 Minutes races, max drivers 30

So there you have it, if you want longer races then you have to work your way up through the licences.

If you cancel I can't say for sure if you'll also lose your stats and have to start from scratch when you rejoin.

Whilst I do share your opinion on longer races in terms of them not being available from day 1, the longer races are available, you just have to grind it out over a few weeks till you get your higher licence, that's why you have a career in iracing.

[Daniel Pettit]

Originally Posted by Daveooo

you just have to grind it out over a few weeks till you get your higher licence, that's why you have a career in iracing.

Ah but thats the very thing. Why should you grind your way through this stage when you can jump into another game and get a longer race (or whatever else you are after) right away.

I'm with Sascha on this one, right now iRacing's plus points are outweighed by the restrictions that have been imposed. I still hold out hope that one day they will get the balance right though as the core game is still very strong.

... oh and for anyone else who wasn't aware. iRacing will auto renew at the end of the month unless you set it otherwuse .. nearly got caught with that myself

[Sascha Henken]

Daveoooo. The problem for me is not the sprint races in general and that you can get longer races "if you grind long enough". First of all, iRacing is to expensive for me for the time beeing. That is the main reason. The second one is that fundamental parts like a reasonable spotter and Full Flag System is missing. I´m fed up with the people that are laps down, you want to overtake, but people keep racing you like jerks. On ovals I understand that a lapped car can fight for his position not beeing lapped but on road courses it is a nightmare if there is NO blue flag shown to make clear that a faster car comes from behind.

While I hear now the arrogance of other racers by saying: It´s your own fault, if you can´t overtake right....

it is a pity that those arrogant racers do say something like this. Why is there a sporting code that decribes the differences between Yellow, Blue and Blag Flags?

Whatever. Have you all fun with iRacing and throw all your money out. I´ll stick with NR2003, rFactor and ARCA Sim Racing