Historic GT Legends mod

[Alessandro Gamberini]

Just found this recent release, I wonder how good it is. based on their tracks it should be a cracker.

rFactor Central // rFactor Cars // Historic GT & Touring Cars 1.01

Historic GT & Touring car is out :adhd:
to the nostalgics I have to say that you need the GTL DVD inserted on PC in order to install the mod on rFactor
fans who have tried were impressed of well made physics, for me is also very nice transformation of the rFactor's menu which becomes a desk with many vintage photos animated ....

at RFC all the links, even with download via Torrent
20car

here are some stolen "thumbnails"

so GTL fans give a try to rFactor, i need your impressions
cheers

[Bruce Rook]

This is a bit of a 'buzz' on some of the sites too, it certainly sounds like a g8 combo.
The graphics certainly are incising.
The Power & Glory mod has been a successful upgrade (IMHO) with the GTR 2 engine. but I just hope this new rFactor mod doesn't split the available racers and dilute the numbers of any one group/league/association have available.

[Patrick van Driel]

Yeah great mod , might be nice to try on the sudsleife .

[Vitor Barreto]

Time to load up GTL DVD

[Theo de Bruin]

Biiiiig download though... they even chopped it up in smaller parts. I am now downloading part 1... so still a long way to go lol!

Anyone tried it yet? Looks promising!

[Patrick van Driel]

Not yet, hope i have time to try today. Cant wait

[Ramon van Rijn]

Have downloaded it; there is an update fix also.
The menu's are very cool. Totally different rFactor look. Have not yet had the change in driving. Some other things came up yesterday.

[Warren Dawes]

I see that SimJunkies wont support races with it yet because it may not yet be legal. Apparently it says something in the promotion of trying to get Simbin approval but haven't got it yet.

Maybe we need to check legalities before we do anything with it at RD.

[Patrick van Driel]

So far the mod is not legal !! And Racedepartment will remove the links to the mod.
Read here:

Due to the use of GTL's 3D models, and the big respect we have for the great work Simbin did creating that game, a valid GTL DVD is going to be required to install the mod in rFactor.

This DVD check won't install Starforce in your computer. It only checks that you own a valid copy of GTL during the installation process of the mod.

Why do we do include that DVD check?

Because we all love GTL, and SimBin deserves the biggest respect for such amazing simracing software. We want to thank them for its creation, which inspired us and allow all the community get a closer view of these amazing cars.

Please note that SimBin hasn't give us a 'green light' to do this project, despite we're trying to contact them through their official emails. We haven't got an answer yet, but anyway, and as we wrote before, we're including some features to assure as much as we can that their work is respected.

[Alessandro Gamberini]

Originally Posted by Patrick van Driel

Please note that SimBin hasn't give us a 'green light' to do this project, despite we're trying to contact them through their official emails. We haven't got an answer yet, but anyway, and as we wrote before, we're including some features to assure as much as we can that their work is respected.

very sad for this :o
i hope they will find a compromise
i think that mandatory to have the GTL DVD to install the rF mod is enought to save the DVD right, sincerly the SIMBIN position is too strong
i also hunderstand the RaceDept position ad agree with you to avoid the use of it
bye

[Daniel Pettit]

It would be a shame if this didn't get 'verified' if anything i think it would promote sales of old copies of GTL. When combined with the VLM retro circuits it makes for a truly inspiring racing experience. Lets hope they can get the loose ends tied up soon

[Mark Jarvis]

If it is so illegal or what ever then why is it still on RFC???

I personally think it is a fantastic mod, better that any other game out there so far imo (that includes all Simbin titles, GTR2 RACE 07, and probably GTR EVO when it comes out. Everything is perfect and again imo is better, waaaay better than GTL ever was. So what if they used/stole some models of cars, they have done a fantstic job with them, better than the original game creators could do with it, they should not be frowned upon, they should be awarded a god damn medal ;):adhd: :alla: :adhd:

As you can see I love this mod/game and will not stop playing it till the cows come home

[Patrick van Driel]

We understand your reactions on the mod, but .... we also protect the work of the owner of the rights.Please accept our position in this Thx

[Mark Jarvis]

I respect and accept your position totally.

Its just a shame this work of art cannot be an addition to the goings on here at RD

[Warren Dawes]

Originally Posted by Mark Jarvis

I respect and accept your position totally.

Its just a shame this work of art cannot be an addition to the goings on here at RD

Well hopefully it may be in the future. If they seek and receive permission from Simbin, then we can use it here.
If the developers of the mod do the right thing respectfully, it might be ok. That is what the GTR2 modders did with Power and Glory mod (GTL mod) and they were given permission.

Lets wait and see what happens.

[Bram Hengeveld]

Personally i think it is a good step that the modders include the GTL key.

[Mark Jarvis]

yes the GTL key is a good step I think too.

If you read the stuff at the beginning of the mod page on RFC then you can see that they have sent emails but have had no reply which shows they have gone to all lengths to try and protectt he original work.

Just annoying they wont email back so we can all have fun with this.

I was racing with Eck earlier tonight and what a blast that was

I was leading the race with Eck in 2nd (an RD domination!! ;)) and I went and blew my engine up 2 laps before the end I have started to use the H shifter with this mod as it feels much more fun to do so. I down changed from 3rd to 1st by accident, messaed the gears up completly lol haha

Anyway hope to see some headway with this permissions crap soon so we can all have this fun

Or you could just rename the RD server to something else ;) lol hehehehe

[Alessandro Gamberini]

Originally Posted by Bram Hengeveld

Personally i think it is a good step that the modders include the GTL key.

probably for this the mod is available at RFCentral where normally are available only legal mods
i hope SIMBIN reply asap giving the green light to the races, until now their position is not funny (imho)
bye

[Ramon van Rijn]

It rolls on two sides....

Yes the GTL needed disc is a good step forwards respecting the works of the original developer.

But...... why are they investing that much time in making probably the best ever mod till now, and forgot to ask permission beforehand.
That I don't understand.

Lets hope SimBin respects the mod and give some green-alike lights

[Alessandro Gamberini]

I seem they have done all the best to respect the SIMBIN rights unfortunately without asking their permission or worse with permission denied
probably the problem is between high-level managers who manage the two groups, simply they do not have friendly relations with each other otherwise this simple problem would be resolved from the beginning
so it seems a thing done in italian way, first build the house of abuse 'cause this crime will be cancelled with a fine and everything is forgiven, but is not the right way of thinking!
we are all waiting, meanwhile subscribe the Megane race appointment (SPAM, sorry )

[Ramon van Rijn]

YouTube - History Repeating

Must see!

[Daniel Pettit]

Might be a licencing issue, GTR2 is a simbin game, rFactor is not and they may have restrictions on their license from the FIA historic series preventing them from granting permission, i'm purely speculating though.

What i do know is that for the last 2 nights this has pulled me away from iRacing.

[Warren Dawes]

Great promo movie but it will all be a bit wasted if they can't / dont make it legal.

To me it doesn't look as good graphically as GTL but that is not as important as the driving model. Anyone had a test drive of a good cross section of cars in this mod to see how it compares. The driving model of GTL is it's strong point for me.

Looks like I'll have to download this one just to see for myself. Certainly looks promising.

[Sam J Simpson]

Simbin hold the license for this series, if they gave implicit permission for this mod it would break their agreement with the organisation so they cannot/willnot give it, the mod team know this so have taken the stance that if no cease and desist was/is issued they would take that as "backdoor" permission, this has been discussed in depth at RSC and was the reason the GTL CD check was included and the mod allowed to stand at RSC.

IMO: The more folks that question the legality of this in public, the more Simbin will be forced to think about issuing a disclaimer/C&D just to cover themselves, and any option for GTL2 were it ever to happen, and that would only force the mod underground into the clutches of those a whole lot less honourable than the rFactor Historix modding team such as has already happened on some of the cross Simbin Sim converts (not P&G).

Sam

[Simon Trendell]

It is a shame as I'd go out and buy GTL at the drop of a hat if we were able to run club events. For now, I'll wait until I see GTL in a 2nd hand bin or boot sale..