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Old 11th August 2008
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Hey buddy,

I would suggest u get it replaced if it has become loose, i have had no problems with mine and my 5 & 2 year have hung on to it with all there weight at times and it is still going strong
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Old 13th August 2008
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Hi there Community,

My Momo Racing Pedals have finally given it up..^^
I had the 80% bug, and did not find any further software solutions, so I opened the pedals and tried to fix them. Well, the problem is, that I can´t get them to work again
The Logitech Profiler no longer detects any movements from either gas or brake pedals. The two Plugs are attached properly and the pedals seem to be placed like they should, but no response...

Can anyone tell me, how I can replace them or where to get pc pedals for around 30-60€ ?

Edit: Doesn´t matter anymore, found a solution.

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Old 14th August 2008
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Hey buddy,

I would suggest u get it replaced if it has become loose, i have had no problems with mine and my 5 & 2 year have hung on to it with all there weight at times and it is still going strong
... know that one too - my son is 18 months old, strong as an ox and loves trying to see if he can rip the wheel off my desk by yanking it full force in all directions, or attempting pull ups on it ...
mine's an old Logi momo force (red) but still going strong even after such attempts at sabotage ...
probably best to return it if not done so already
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Default Logi Momo Force (the red one)

Been getting some strange handling and screen twitches esp. when turning right lately and today have only just realised what is causing it ...

When I turn my (red) Logi Momo Force to the right, from somewhere around 95º of its 120º rotation I get some mad "spiking" or twitching, and it won't register full lock ... on turning it lock to lock, it no longer registers smooth readings either

Does this mean my trusty old "steed" is nearing its end , or is there something I can do to sort this out ... new pots, cleaning, etc???

(I once saw a link to renovating/cleaning this wheel but can't seem to find it any more - anyone got such a link?)
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Default Calling all ex-Momo Force (red) owners ...

Would be interested in hearing from anyone who has upgraded from a Logi Momo Force (red) to something else ... and my question is quite simple,
"What wheel did you get, and how happy with it are you?"

My wheel has started playing up the last few days, spiking and stuff especially when steering right ... and unless I can fix it (suggestions very welcome), I might just be in the market for a new wheel ...
and since G25's are going for roughly €200, I am thinking I might just be able to squeeze my budget to one of those (with a lot of cups of tea and some serious grovelling to my wife ... kids will have to go hungry this month too )

Appreciate your experiences ...

EDIT: Does anyone know if a squash ball fits in place of a spring on the brake pedal of a G25 like it does on the momo ... and/or does it need something like this or does the G25 brake pedal actually have some feel or loading to it rather than a straight spring?
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... know that one too - my son is 18 months old, strong as an ox and loves trying to see if he can rip the wheel off my desk by yanking it full force in all directions, or attempting pull ups on it ...
mine's an old Logi momo force (red) but still going strong even after such attempts at sabotage ...
... or maybe not
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Just bought my new G25. It feels so heavy when I turn in. It's like driving without power-steering. I also find the pedals too close together and the brake pedal unconfortable.

Or maybe I'm still used to my old 30€ rubbish Thrustmaster.


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Tobias, I had the 80% bug as well with my old rubbish. After I've opened the pedals case, they were not working at all.

I had to turn some little plastic screws. But, in order to get those plastic screws you need the lign the pedals almost orizontally backwards, as they are connected with a little plastic notch on the screws.


Now, off course, that was my 30 euros Thrustmaster crap. I don't know the Logitech Momo's details.
My unimportant advice (if your problem is not solved) is either ask some specialist to get it fixed either get some new hardware.

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Been getting some strange handling and screen twitches esp. when turning right lately and today have only just realised what is causing it ...

When I turn my (red) Logi Momo Force to the right, from somewhere around 95º of its 120º rotation I get some mad "spiking" or twitching, and it won't register full lock ... on turning it lock to lock, it no longer registers smooth readings either

Does this mean my trusty old "steed" is nearing its end , or is there something I can do to sort this out ... new pots, cleaning, etc???

(I once saw a link to renovating/cleaning this wheel but can't seem to find it any more - anyone got such a link?)
logitech will not supply you with spares but you can get them from Digi-Key Corporation - United Kingdom Home Page
I think the parts you are looking for are
MOMO Force
DigiKey: 963260-KIT-ND MOMO FORCE
RES,VAR,10K,290DEG,+/-10%,PLAS 1 X axis
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EDIT: Does anyone know if a squash ball fits in place of a spring on the brake pedal of a G25 like it does on the momo ... and/or does it need something like this or does the G25 brake pedal actually have some feel or loading to it rather than a straight spring?
the G25 brake peddle has great feel and takes some pushing all the way down. so no need for a squash ball.

i used the black momo for years and the G25 is a much better wheel.
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There is a mod also for the G25 brake, cant recall the producer, where they make a custom sized rubber coloumn into the tube/spring of the brake pedal to make it more stronger and progressive feel. However i think it is not needed, i find it pretty good strong force without any tuning, i would not even want heavier force for it.
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Don't hesitate and take the G25. After two years of intense use it feels still great and i havent got a problem with it from the beginning.

The Black Momo i worn out in less then 3 months after daily use
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logitech will not supply you with spares but you can get them from Digi-Key Corporation - United Kingdom Home Page
I think the parts you are looking for are
MOMO Force
DigiKey: 963260-KIT-ND MOMO FORCE
RES,VAR,10K,290DEG,+/-10%,PLAS 1 X axis
RES,VAR,10K OHM,30 DEGREE 2 Pedals
Beauteeeee ... thanks, might just have saved me a fortune!!

You don´t happen to know where I can find info on how the repair is done - seem to be drawing blanks on my searches, but am certain I once say a really detailed explanation of this, or at least cleaning the pots online somewhere
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Beauteeeee ... thanks, might just have saved me a fortune!!

You don´t happen to know where I can find info on how the repair is done - seem to be drawing blanks on my searches, but am certain I once say a really detailed explanation of this, or at least cleaning the pots online somewhere
the pots on the pedals are pretty straightforward to replace but make sure they are a good fit in the pedal shafts, if they are slack then place some thin tape over the end of the pedal shaft and push the pot through the tape and it will be nice n tight after that, you should find some instructions for most of the work here Mozso :: home if the shafts are worn then it would be best to also follow the instructions within the above site to repair then also
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Decided to bite the bullet this morning and stuck the kids in front of the telly whilst I took the whole wheel apart and tried servicing it ... in for a penny in for a pound, there were wires and screwdrivers and allen keys galore

First thing I found that the "stopper" for the rotation of the wheel was completely broken, and was rattling around loose inside the wheel (the noise of this was what spurred me taking it to bits this morning).
Anyhow, it was completely shot at, tied epoxying back together but it would not stand the impact it is going to take, so have fashioned a replacement one from the nearest thing I have to hand that should take the knocks ... one of those newfangled plastic wine corks as its a similar diameter and should not break

Other thing I found was that the FF motor had worked its way quite loose ... tightened and thread sealed that back into place, and am in the midst of reassembling things and was hoping to clean and re-install the original pot to see if things have improved.
On cleaning pots though, I have no clue - am a techie not a sparkie

Just read several conflicting reports about cleaning pots with WD40 (mainly on old radios though) - as I have no other electrical cleaning fluid kicking around and no idea where I can get any round here, this is the only thing I can think of that I have kicking around that might work!?!
... good or bad idea - help or hinder ... any other household kinda products that might do the trick??

BTW ... sods law - now that I have already done it, I have also just found a link on RSC on how to take your wheel apart ... (Thanks for your link Neil, but the hungarian pages are gone, and didn´t find anything from the RSC link from there ...
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Default Fixed My Momo Force ... for now

Good news for me and my pocket, with just a few basic tools, a bit of time, some thread lock and a "plastic" wine cork, I seem to have saved the expense of a new wheel ... all seems to be fixed and better than I ever remember it being (full testing and info to follow, hopefully this evening) ...
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Brake cleaner works good for cleaning pots. You can find it at most hardware stores or most anywhere with an automotive section. Its an aerosol made to clean brake parts on a car so will basically get any residue off of about anything, and doesn't leave any residue itself which is nice.

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Don't hesitate and take the G25. After two years of intense use it feels still great and i havent got a problem with it from the beginning.

The Black Momo i worn out in less then 3 months after daily use
My old Thrustmaster was having problems since the first weeks. And it was bought from Nancy, France ...

The brake lights were clipping on and off as the brake was never cut off completely, than one of the paddle shifter left me alone in this cruel world.

After I've opened the pedal case, I had to tie the brake with elastic, then the gas pedal started to shed some skin, geez, it's like it was falling apart lap after lap.


Here's the beauty. It's like can you believe I had some tough RD Championship races with elastic tied brake and half a pedal .

Now compare this with the new G25. Geez.
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Brake cleaner works good for cleaning pots. You can find it at most hardware stores or most anywhere with an automotive section. Its an aerosol made to clean brake parts on a car so will basically get any residue off of about anything, and doesn't leave any residue itself which is nice.

Bill
Heh heh ... actually wondered about that as I have some down in the garage for my motorbike, but figured knowing my luck it would do some untold damage ... but a bit of manual "twiddling" with a bit of pressure on the pot whilst it was out seems to have done the trick -- will be checking it out with a bit of proper track time soon - otherwise it'll be down to the garage to dig out the brake cleaner ... Cheers
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... all seems to be fixed and better than I ever remember it being (full testing and info to follow, hopefully this evening) ...
Done an hour or two testing on and off this evening, and so far I can say that my service this morning seems to have sorted things a treat (last couple of days I was running a second or two off my normal pace due to the spiking, but am back on form now - slow instead of super slow) - no more spiking and I get full lock too.
The wheel has absolutely no play in it any more, and seems much more responsive - feels like new again
The home made resin wine-cork "bumpstop" I made seems much better than the original hard resin plastic thing - instead of a harsh thwhack when the wheel gets to full lock, there is just a good solid sounding buffered bump.

The G25 can wait ... my Momo lives on - woohoo!
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Hi.

O wonder if anyone can help?, i have a driving force pro and a driving force ex now my driving force pro has failed on its brake pedal after last nites mini race.

The problem i am having is with the driving force ex, i went into the rdwtcc group4 race tonite and my wheel kept going left and right on its own? i have been trying to fix this problem but it keeps happening on rfactor and gtr2. Now i am wondering can this wheel be reset by the mode button i did have the manual but i cant find it i aint very happy because i feel like i have let rd down in not racing.

If anyone has the ex or knows what to do i could do with the help, i have been on logitechs website but there aint much there.

Many thanks if you can help

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Darren there is a option in the game -race07 steering options where you set your FF strengh you can allsow revers forces or somthing like that (i dont remember as i have polish ver. of the game) You should ticked that for logitech wheels.If its unticked wheel behaves like you said.
Dont know maybe this isnt the problem here, but try that if you didnt allready.

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