RDWTCC - General Discussion Thread

[Niklas Hjelm]

I think what he meant was that he has got a 1 lap qualifying setup that he as well uses for the 13 lap race.

I start out with brams excellent setup (cheers bram ;)) and adapt it to my driving style. Usually I use a less oversteery setup than bram. Then for my race setup I use an even more undresteery setup with less camber and softer rear end.

[Jerome Benard]

Yes i make a specific race setup for saving the tires

[Robert Crone]

No, i fuel up and go.

[Simon Trendell]

Depends, for Istanbul & Valencia I used the same setup for quali and race, for this round however, the tyres overheat after 3/4 laps on my quali setup so I've got to make some changes, I did a long run earlier and by lap 10 I got the tyres are worn message..

[Patrick Duivelaar]

I think that especially on this track it is important to create a setup for the race, I think the tires are having a hard time at this track.

[Attila Domján]

If you can run a full race with the qualy setup with just fueling up, it can mean 2 thing:
- you did not get out the most from your car setup for the qualy
- or you will eat up your tyres after lap 6-7 close to none, and even the turtles at the side of the track will wave you bye bye as they flypass you...

so yes, i have separate race setup.

[Nils Wijk]

Originally Posted by Attila Domján

If you can run a full race with the qualy setup with just fueling up, it can mean 2 thing:
- you did not get out the most from your car setup for the qualy
- or you will eat up your tyres after lap 6-7 close to none, and even the turtles at the side of the track will wave you bye bye as they flypass you...

so yes, i have separate race setup.

Or you drive just a bit less on the edge of what is capable

[Greger Huttu]

What I do is first work on as fast setup as possible (qual setup) then change that as little as possible for the race. Making too many changes usually just makes the setup slower (or maybe I don't know what the heck I'm doing) and then you end up having to push the car harder... which leads to more tyre wear and other horrible things.

Usually I change the setup a bit though, things like tyre pressure and springs to balance the tyre wear.

[Peter Eriksson]

Tyrepressure and fuel is all i change, maybe toein also, but as little as needed for the temp to become fine again.

[Mikael Larsson]

Originally Posted by Attila Domján

- you did not get out the most from your car setup for the qualy
- or you will eat up your tyres after lap 6-7 close to none

I always try to do my own setups....often works out quite well I think.
But...there is a BUT. Lets take an example. Zandvoort pre-qual. During my very first laps I drove 1.47.8 or so I think. Did some tweaking....more tweaking....always same laptimes. Even tried minimum tyre pressure. Same laptimes. Doesn't seem to matter what I do, never makes any big difference. But instead when I dared to push the car a little harder the laptimes were faster. Every time I beat my PB I save the setup and just fill it up enough for a race. Most often without tyre wears, sometimes last lap.
So that points in 4 different directions...
- I'm always lucky getting those quite fast laptimes
- or there are something wrong with the game
- or I'm still too unexperienced to feel the difference
- when I know the trick, I'll be hunting Greger himself

[Christopher Aponte]

well actually that is also what i'm kinda doing Mikael....in these days then

actually i begin first with a basic setup with full thank of fuel (to see how the car reacts in a full race setup)....then i build it up to see the improvements & still keep it full tank.....
only at the end (like entering pre-quali) i go with little fuel & see how it kinda reacts.....normally i would be changing then tire pressure and maybe some springs for some extra "ump"

but only zandvoort i went the opposite and go directly with little fuel & keep changing the setup a lot).....so now actually i need a race setup i think lol

[Attila Domján]

Chris, maybe you want to visit the RPM team setup area... hint hint...

Ye, i agree with the majority here, for the race setup you do not need to have a whole different setup, just minor changes, like tyre pressure and less aggressive wheel geometry to save the tyres, and a little different suspension setting to have the right weight balance of the car with more fuel inside.

[Attila Domján]

Grids are final!

Good luck for everybody for the races! :bike:

[Antoine Morin]

ALways trying to make a setup for the race but ...it always finish like taking Rodolphe or Bram setups and fuel em up ^^

[Nils Wijk]

About the tire temps, what is a good temp? I just did a race distance -1L as the game only allowed me to select real as maximum and that is 12Laps. And the tires felt good till lap 9.

[Marcin Skrzypczak]

heloo m8 what about springs in race setup ?? little bit harder or softer to race setup??

[Andy MacMartin]

I know I'm just echoing the things said above, but in reading Briefing 3 I really am extremely impressed by the effort that has gone into it. And like some of the others have also said, the patient and reasonable attitude of all RD staff is much appreciated, and very admirable. Plus there's always Gary Lennon to fall back on.

GREAT job guys - amazing really.

[Nils Wijk]

Softer makes the car more forgiving...

[Gary Lennon]

The locked qual problem is coming in to play again just now with the RD practice server,currently on qual session locked with 6 people in,surely the practice server doesnt need to have locked qually?,ofcourse i can fully understand it being locked for the real deal races.

Edit: deary deary me.....5 are now having a race....(shocking)

[Attila Domján]

i will start up the 4 League rooms at 18 GMT 20 CET, with practise session for 120 min, then practise session 2 on 30 min, then qualy and so on...

So, qualy will be closed as always, but there will be no issue for joining the servers.

Voting will be strictily forbidden on the servers afterwards!

[Attila Domján]

Dear all,

To solve the issue of people not being able to join the servers because of the closed qualification session rule, the server setup from today onwards for all the following races will be the following:

Practise 1 (open): 120 min, start at 18 GMT / 20 CET
Practise 2 (open): 30 min
Qualification (closed): 30 min
Races

Voting for next session on the League servers is strictly forbidden!

Regards:
Race Direction

[Gary Lennon]

Sounds good to me boss .

[Patrick Duivelaar]

So practice session 2 is actually practice 1 of the real event and qualify the real qualifying?

[Clive Siggs]

yes

[Simon Trendell]

Originally Posted by Patrick Duivelaar

So practice session 2 is actually practice 1 of the real event and qualify the real qualifying?

I think that is right.

One problem, group 3 server has 90 minutes left in practice 1, but there's an hour until practice 2 should start ?
Means we'll be 30 mins behind

Edit: Jamie has joined and is investigating