RDWTCC - General Discussion Thread

[Warren Dawes]

Originally Posted by Clive Siggs

As far as the investigation results go (you guys do a great job, so no criticism - just an observation) there is reference to Valencia a few times where I do believe we raced at Zandvoort ;)

Do I get bonus points hehe

Special "observation" bonus for Clive. You are entitled to a 10% discount on your next penalty.

[Steve Emmons]

I'll second the "great job" to the RD guys. I wouldn't be going around in circles without you... Thanks for the dedication and hard work!

[Christopher Aponte]

Originally Posted by Clive Siggs

I'd agree with the group 3 stuff - was really fun

As far as the investigation results go (you guys do a great job, so no criticism - just an observation) there is reference to Valencia a few times where I do believe we raced at Zandvoort ;)

Do I get bonus points hehe

looool yep you got a bonus

[Peter Eriksson]

"223 sec: Peter Eriksson / Geofredo Rosario: No penalty. It was hard racing against eachother.
239 sec: Geofredo Rosario / Peter Eriksson: No Penalty. But we like to advice both drivers to give a bit more room or be more careful to each other."

Just wondering, is you guys watching the whole races or just the parts that is reported to you? Becouse here is one part that i got hurt and i havent filed any report but still it comes up here, so im qurious, keep up the good work.

[Mikael Larsson]

I have a bad habit to report anything suspicious Most often it doesn't generate any penalty. Just to make sure that nothing will go wrong and I like it clean

[Attila Domján]

We check mostly just reports and lap 1, but not necessarily the victim was the one who reported the incident.

[Peter Böszörményi]

180 sec: Peter Böszörményi: Warning to Peter Böszörényi

Sorry Jari (I think :Unsure, after the touch I wanted to put you back in line, what was finished as another toss in the back :HoopsYoyo:.

I'll try to be as gent as possible, but as I'm still not experienced enough, disqualification is a real danger to me :brancard:.
The solution is if I spot a car towards me I'll go off track lol.

[Peter Eriksson]

Ok, thanks for the answer

[Danny Engels]

http://www.lava-studios.com/download..._Hotlapper.mp3

That is what I am! :>


Well, till the V-WTCC Final i'll have a driving license. ( hope so )
Don't have it now, because i'm a lazy guy. But I already begun the theoretical stuff =)

[Mehmet Arikan]

crazy sound man :disco: and who is the amd Racing Tour Champion 2007

[Christopher Aponte]

Congratulations to all those who were successful in Pre-Qualifying for Round 4 at Brno.
For this round we see, like early on predicted, a BMW dominance, which has taken more than half the field of group 1.


We will update this list if any more absences are lodged up to 24hrs before the event.


Group 1

3 Mathieu Prevot || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:08.482 +0.714 || Qualify 2008/06/10
4 Samuel Libeert || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:08.778 +1.010 || Qualify 2008/06/10
5 Miklos Borsos || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:09.075 +1.307 || Qualify 2008/06/11
6 Cristian Haba || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:09.087 +1.319 || Qualify 2008/06/12
7 Attila Domjan || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:09.444 +1.676 || Qualify 2008/06/11
8 Stirb Iuliu || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:09.526 +1.758 || Qualify 2008/06/10
9 Jackson Fung || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:09.554 +1.786 || Qualify 2008/06/09
10 Oliver Wickens || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:09.566 +1.798 || Qualify 2008/06/11
11 Marcin Skrzypczak || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:09.611 +1.843 || Qualify 2008/06/11
12 Rami Kaukola || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:09.658 +1.890 || Qualify 2008/06/11
13 Rodolphe Morin || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:09.685 +1.917 || Qualify 2008/06/12
14 Nikifor Dakovic || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:09.688 +1.920 || Qualify 2008/06/12
15 Kari Nyman || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:09.720 +1.952 || Qualify 2008/06/12
16 Patrick Duivelaar || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:09.735 +1.967 || Qualify 2008/06/10
17 Andreas Löffler || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:09.820 +2.052 || Qualify 2008/06/10
18 Gregory Degreef || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:09.823 +2.055 || Qualify 2008/06/10
19 Erik Åhlen || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:09.826 +2.058 || Qualify 2008/06/12
20 Jason Lai || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:09.841 +2.073 || Qualify 2008/06/12
21 Christopher Aponte || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:09.846 +2.078 || Qualify 2008/06/11
22 Henrik Horvath || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:09.873 +2.105 || Qualify 2008/06/12
23 Peter Eriksson || Alfa Romeo 156 || 02:09.874 +2.106 || Qualify 2008/06/11
24 Kristofer Larsson || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:09.880 +2.112 || Qualify 2008/06/10
25 Maik Peters || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:09.889 +2.121 || Qualify 2008/06/12
26 Zbigniew Tomczak || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:09.932 +2.164 || Qualify 2008/06/11
27 Peter Böszörményi || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:09.961 +2.193 || Qualify 2008/06/12

Group 2

28 Mikael Hellen || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:10.036 +2.268 || Qualify 2008/06/11
30 Danny Pattiwael || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:10.064 +2.296 || Qualify 2008/06/12
31 Gary Lennon || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:10.069 +2.301 || Qualify 2008/06/09
32 Sol Leung || Honda Accord Euro R || 02:10.087 +2.319 || Qualify 2008/06/12
33 Pirro Chun || Honda Accord Euro R || 02:10.169 +2.401 || Qualify 2008/06/08
34 Mtommi Tam || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:10.260 +2.492 || Qualify 2008/06/11
35 Frederico Teixeira || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:10.298 +2.530 || Qualify 2008/06/12
36 Mikael Larsson || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:10.365 +2.597 || Qualify 2008/06/11
37 Andy MacMartin || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:10.381 +2.613 || Qualify 2008/06/10
38 Adriano Esanto || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:10.456 +2.688 || Qualify 2008/06/12
39 Joe Man || Honda Accord Euro R || 02:10.459 +2.691 || Qualify 2008/06/11
40 Antoine Morin || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:10.464 +2.696 || Qualify 2008/06/12
41 Alessandro Maresta || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:10.575 +2.807 || Qualify 2008/06/10
42 Ben Tusting || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:10.587 +2.819 || Qualify 2008/06/12
43 Wietse Visser || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:10.610 +2.842 || Qualify 2008/06/11
44 Raymond Tsang || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:10.659 +2.891 || Qualify 2008/06/11
45 Foxs Yiu || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:10.682 +2.914 || Qualify 2008/06/10
46 Paul Bordeau || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:10.692 +2.924 || Qualify 2008/06/11
47 Robert Crone || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:10.715 +2.947 || Qualify 2008/06/11
48 Jari Vinnari || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:10.739 +2.971 || Qualify 2008/06/12
49 Jims Bong || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:10.771 +3.003 || Qualify 2008/06/09
51 Esa Kuusisto || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:10.864 +3.096 || Qualify 2008/06/11
52 Cheung Ting Pong || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:10.896 +3.128 || Qualify 2008/06/12
53 Lu Chan || Honda Accord Euro R || 02:10.932 +3.164 || Qualify 2008/06/12
54 Kent Karlén || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:10.941 +3.173 || Qualify 2008/06/08

Group 3

5 Simon Jorge Sanchez || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:10.971 +3.203 || Qualify 2008/06/09
56 Sergio Jorge || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:10.972 +3.204 || Qualify 2008/06/12
57 William Yunck || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:10.993 +3.225 || Qualify 2008/06/11
58 Simon Trendell || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:11.005 +3.237 || Qualify 2008/06/12
59 Clive Siggs || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.051 +3.283 || Qualify 2008/06/11
60 Frederic Dubois || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:11.055 +3.287 || Qualify 2008/06/12
61 Marco Ho || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.071 +3.303 || Qualify 2008/06/09
62 Warren Dawes || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.077 +3.309 || Qualify 2008/06/12
63 Steve Emmons || Honda Accord Euro R || 02:11.100 +3.332 || Qualify 2008/06/12
65 Jacco Cornelissen || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:11.126 +3.358 || Qualify 2008/06/12
66 Jay Adgie || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:11.159 +3.391 || Qualify 2008/06/10
67 Karl Westman || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:11.173 +3.405 || Qualify 2008/06/12
69 Fernando De Almeida || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.300 +3.532 || Qualify 2008/06/09
71 Samco Sam || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:11.402 +3.634 || Qualify 2008/06/11
72 marc hamel || Honda Accord Euro R || 02:11.407 +3.639 || Qualify 2008/06/12
73 Oliver Amos || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:11.427 +3.659 || Qualify 2008/06/10
74 Peter Madsen || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:11.480 +3.712 || Qualify 2008/06/12
75 Julien Dufresnes || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:11.500 +3.732 || Qualify 2008/06/12
76 Andreas Hultgren || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.518 +3.750 || Qualify 2008/06/12
77 mathieu FOLGALVEZ || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:11.572 +3.804 || Qualify 2008/06/11
78 Michael Herrmann || Honda Accord Euro R || 02:11.580 +3.812 || Qualify 2008/06/10
80 Luc Frachon || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.654 +3.886 || Qualify 2008/06/09
81 Mickael miniac || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:11.694 +3.926 || Qualify 2008/06/11
82 James Yates || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:11.755 +3.987 || Qualify 2008/06/10
84 Maurizio Giudici || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.794 +4.026 || Qualify 2008/06/11

Group 4

85 GILBERTO ESTORNINHO || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:11.821 +4.053 || Qualify 2008/06/11
86 Robert Maytum || Honda Accord Euro R || 02:11.825 +4.057 || Qualify 2008/06/12
88 Truls Flatland || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.865 +4.097 || Qualify 2008/06/09
89 Mark A Warmington || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.938 +4.170 || Qualify 2008/06/10
90 Hansi Josefsson || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.946 +4.178 || Qualify 2008/06/12
91 Nils Wijk || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:11.981 +4.213 || Qualify 2008/06/11
92 Samu Palomäki || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:12.012 +4.244 || Qualify 2008/06/11
93 david lemon || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:12.040 +4.272 || Qualify 2008/06/10
94 jacek kozlowski || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:12.096 +4.328 || Qualify 2008/06/11
95 Jamie Wilson || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:12.100 +4.332 || Qualify 2008/06/11
96 Wido Rossen || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:12.124 +4.356 || Qualify 2008/06/11
97 Raino Priha || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:12.289 +4.521 || Qualify 2008/06/09
98 Terry Harmer || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:12.350 +4.582 || Qualify 2008/06/11
99 Lasse Oinas || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:12.429 +4.661 || Qualify 2008/06/11
100 Helder Filipe || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:12.436 +4.668 || Qualify 2008/06/09
102 Sidonio Moreira || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:12.542 +4.774 || Qualify 2008/06/09
103 Jerome Benard || Alfa Romeo 156 || 02:12.550 +4.782 || Qualify 2008/06/11
104 Harald Schneller || Alfa Romeo 156 || 02:12.564 +4.796 || Qualify 2008/06/11
105 Jerome Martin || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:12.596 +4.828 || Qualify 2008/06/10
106 Pascal Malenfant Tremblay || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:12.675 +4.907 || Qualify 2008/06/12
107 Christian Deparis || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:12.735 +4.967 || Qualify 2008/06/08
108 Maurice Hurkmans || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:12.746 +4.978 || Qualify 2008/06/11
109 Alvaro Mourato || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:12.764 +4.996 || Qualify 2008/06/11
110 stephen rogers || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:12.779 +5.011 || Qualify 2008/06/11
111 Darren Martin || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:13.024 +5.256 || Qualify 2008/06/11

Non Qualifiers

112 Anibal Moreira || Alfa Romeo 156 || 02:13.159 +5.391 || Qualify 2008/06/10
113 István Milbich || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:13.519 +5.751 || Qualify 2008/06/11
114 Kris Leeten || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:13.574 +5.806 || Qualify 2008/06/11
115 Fran Gil || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:13.694 +5.926 || Qualify 2008/06/12
116 Robert Schon || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:13.790 +6.022 || Qualify 2008/06/09
117 Ricky Willox || Honda Accord Euro R || 02:13.810 +6.042 || Qualify 2008/06/12
118 Geofredo Rosario || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:13.834 +6.066 || Qualify 2008/06/10
119 Olivier Hercek || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:13.856 +6.088 || Qualify 2008/06/10
120 Nigel Eiffe || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:13.885 +6.117 || Qualify 2008/06/12
121 Patrick van Driel ||| SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:14.035 +6.267 || Qualify 2008/06/12
122 James Johnson || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:14.171 +6.403 || Qualify 2008/06/11
123 Daniel Landouar || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:14.462 +6.694 || Qualify 2008/06/11
124 Jeremy Trotin || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:15.020 +7.252 || Qualify 2008/06/11
125 Sébastien Poidevin || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:15.042 +7.274 || Qualify 2008/06/10
126 Keith Peppiatt || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:15.046 +7.278 || Qualify 2008/06/10
127 Luis Rebelo || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:15.336 +7.568 || Qualify 2008/06/09
128 Eckhart von Glan neu || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:15.440 +7.672 || Qualify 2008/06/09
129 Michael Sharpe || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:15.554 +7.786 || Qualify 2008/06/12
130 AnthonyHilton || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:15.963 +8.195 || Qualify 2008/06/09
131 Martin Slooter || Honda Accord Euro R || 02:15.991 +8.223 || Qualify 2008/06/11
132 Alexandre Norry || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:17.100 +9.332 || Qualify 2008/06/11
133 victor shaw || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:17.154 +9.386 || Qualify 2008/06/10
134 Lucas Degen || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:19.207 +11.439 || Qualify 2008/06/10


Absent

1 Christian Szymczak || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:07.768 || Qualify 2008/06/12
2 Danny Engels || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 02:08.479 +0.711 || Qualify 2008/06/11
29 Ramon van Rijn || Honda Accord Euro R || 02:10.051 +2.283 || Qualify 2008/06/11
50 Sébastien Degraeve || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:10.836 +3.068 || Qualify 2008/06/12
68 Laszlo Miskolczi || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.175 +3.407 || Qualify 2008/06/10
70 Mehmet Arslan || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.344 +3.576 || Qualify 2008/06/11
79 Daniel Juncadella || SEAT Leon 2007 || 02:11.653 +3.885 || Qualify 2008/06/09
83 Sandor Bazso || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.768 +4.000 || Qualify 2008/06/12
87 Patrick speleman || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 02:11.853 +4.085 || Qualify 2008/06/11
101 Jerome Lecomte || Alfa Romeo 156 || 02:12.489 +4.721 || Qualify 2008/06/10


Warning to the following drivers
Frederic Dubois - the use of nickname is not allowed. Luckily he reported in time.

Disqualified for Round 4, Brno
Nick Madsen - not reported absence for round 3
Benjamin Besomi - not reported absence for round 3

[Mehmet Arikan]

Wido all my thoughts with you go myman go

[Attila Domján]

Dear all,

Please be informed, that for this rounds non-qualifier event we will run 1 group, the 5th, together with the points racing groups at the same time as the official event is on Saturday. Most likely this will be the case for all the upcoming rounds as well.

Our new quad core servers has more power to suit more rooms for running it parallel, which allows us to align the timing for this event together with groups 1-4.

The 5th group as usual will be running on first come first serve basis, race will be without League points.

Regards: Race Direction

[Kevin Ascher]

do u have a team?

[Mehmet Arslan]

[quote=Danny Engels;99598]http://www.lava-studios.com/download..._Hotlapper.mp3

That is what I am! :>
quote]
I think it sounds a bit ... :jumping:

[Attila Domján]

Grids are finalized!

[pitsy]

hi callum pittendreigh here aka pitsy
just to say i cant race in wtcc anymore , as family comes first but never in group 1 anyway,but still race in the vertigo at least but cant at weekends,sry guys mayb next season

[William Yunck]

Sorry Callum, that is too bad. Maybe next year.

[Warren Dawes]

Thanks for letting us know Callum, and thanks also for your participation till now.

[Attila Domján]

Dear racers,

As a preparation for the next League round at Estoril we thought it would be good to re-fresh the cutting rules well before even the pre-qualification starts to avoid misunderstanding.

The rules are the following:
- always remain with at least 2 wheels on the track
- do not touch the grass

To make the understanding easier please take a look on the attached examples, note that they are only examples, the rules you must keep for the complete lap of course.

We would like to advise everybody, that the cutting issues will be looked at from the pre-qualification onwards, and breaching of the rules will result in severe penalties.

Best regards and happy clean racing:
Race Direction


T2 OK


T2 NOK


Right hander before chicane OK


Right hander before chicane NOK


Chicane entry OK


Chicane entry NOK


Chicane exit OK


Chicane exit NOK

[Attila Domján]

Confirmation: for all the next round also the non-qualifiers event will be held together with the main groups event on Saturday night, same time.

Regards: Race Direction

[Ben Tusting]

I am unable to race at estoril in the wtcc championship due to a holiday.

Race 07 in game name Ben Tusting

[Jamie Wilson]

Ben, please read the rules: Absences must be sent by e-mail, not a forum post.

See this thread: Report your Absence

EDIT - Actually, not as big a deal as if you had already prequalified, but still, your first port of call regarding league absences should always be e-mail.