RDWTCC - General Discussion Thread

[Nils Wijk]

Yes indeed that is what I thought but normally i max out at my braking point now it was at least 50m earlier it caught me completely of guard :S

I will try and find the replay later today...

[Danny Pattiwael]

PeakP,

Funny you mentioned this, cause I was also behind a car on a straight, and then I heard my revs reached their top, and not looking at my speedometer, I instinctively geared up, and then saw I was allready was in 6th gear. So to me, it also looked like I got a drag.

[Luc Frachon]

Very good question, I was wondering myself. Are the cars considered as "ghosts" in pre-qual, or do they just appear transparent due to collisions being de-activated?
If it's the later then draft may occur.

[Simon Trendell]

I've never noticed any draft, but I don't think I've been close enough to someone to get any nor has anyone been close enough behind.

[Maik Peters]

Yesterday i had a Draft thing to... I was only once and I tried to reproduce it but I could not find anyone in front of me..

my top speed was 340 and normally 330.. so and i missed my braking point.

[Danny Engels]

Originally Posted by Attila Domján

I can hardly imagine that there is draft effect with ghost cars.

Yes there is, I wondered why I was already running in the limiter on start finish line yesterday, till i reckon that i had slipstream of a ghost car.

[Attila Domján]

ok, i believe you guys.

but hey Maik, 340....? km/h? or m/s?

[Wido Rossen]

Originally Posted by Attila Domján

ok, i believe you guys.

but hey Maik, 340....? km/h? or m/s?

Whe know Maik is fast but this is.....SUPERFAST... :alla:

[Maik Peters]

Originally Posted by Attila Domján

ok, i believe you guys.

but hey Maik, 340....? km/h? or m/s?

Sorry typing mistake 240 whahah:adhd:

[Gary Lennon]

Awww,i thought Maik had found a beta WTCC Extreme car to test,but only a typo ..........:p

[James Yates]

Ive had this a few times aswell... mainly earlier this season at Valencia.

[Christopher Aponte]

Congratulations to all those who were successful in Pre-Qualifying for Round 5 at Estoril.
For this round we notice a really tight group 1, which 1st position and 25th position only separates by 1.041 sec.


We will update this list if any more absences are lodged up to 24hrs before the event.


Group 1

1 Mathieu Prevot || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:45.314 || Qualify 2008/06/25
2 2 Samuel Libeert || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:45.380 +0.066 || Qualify 2008/06/25
3 Danny Engels || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:45.515 +0.201 || Qualify 2008/06/23
4 Nils Naujoks || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:45.595 +0.281 || Qualify 2008/06/23
5 Rami Kaukola || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:45.854 +0.540 || Qualify 2008/06/25
6 Cristian Haba || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:45.906 +0.592 || Qualify 2008/06/23
7 Attila Domjan || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:45.969 +0.655 || Qualify 2008/06/23
8 Oliver Wickens || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:46.033 +0.719 || Qualify 2008/06/25
9 Peter Eriksson || Alfa Romeo 156 || 01:46.097 +0.783 || Qualify 2008/06/26
10 Marcin Skrzypczak || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:46.097 +0.783 || Qualify 2008/06/23
11 Paul Patrick || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:46.135 +0.821 || Qualify 2008/06/25
12 Christopher Aponte || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.148 +0.834 || Qualify 2008/06/26
13 Sol Leung || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:46.153 +0.839 || Qualify 2008/06/26
14 Gregory Degreef || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.180 +0.866 || Qualify 2008/06/25
15 Jackson Fung || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:46.196 +0.882 || Qualify 2008/06/26
16 Maik Peters || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.198 +0.884 || Qualify 2008/06/26
17 Stirb Iuliu || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:46.199 +0.885 || Qualify 2008/06/24
18 Erik Åhlen || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.201 +0.887 || Qualify 2008/06/26
19 Ludwig Ghidi || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.244 +0.930 || Qualify 2008/06/24
20 Danny Pattiwael || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.269 +0.955 || Qualify 2008/06/25
21 Mikael Hellen || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:46.273 +0.959 || Qualify 2008/06/24
22 Henrik Horvath || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:46.287 +0.973 || Qualify 2008/06/26
23 Andreas Löffler || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:46.302 +0.988 || Qualify 2008/06/26
24 Pirro Chun || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:46.306 +0.992 || Qualify 2008/06/26
25 Rodolphe Morin || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:46.355 +1.041 || Qualify 2008/06/26


Group 2

26 Gary Lennon || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.371 +1.057 || Qualify 2008/06/25
27 Mikael Larsson || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:46.388 +1.074 || Qualify 2008/06/26
28 Patrick Leung || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.467 +1.153 || Qualify 2008/06/26
29 Paul Bordeau || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.480 +1.166 || Qualify 2008/06/23
30 Simon Trendell || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.492 +1.178 || Qualify 2008/06/24
31 Frederico Teixeira || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:46.497 +1.183 || Qualify 2008/06/25
32 James Yates || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:46.515 +1.201 || Qualify 2008/06/23
33 Jacco Cornelissen || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.554 +1.240 || Qualify 2008/06/23
35 [ABSENCE]
36 William Gauzan || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:46.613 +1.299 || Qualify 2008/06/25
37 Joe Man || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:46.670 +1.356 || Qualify 2008/06/26
38 Grégory Cogotti || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:46.671 +1.357 || Qualify 2008/06/25
39 Evy Weygers || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.723 +1.409 || Qualify 2008/06/26
40 Adrian Campfield || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:46.742 +1.428 || Qualify 2008/06/25
41 Jari Vinnari || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:46.756 +1.442 || Qualify 2008/06/26
42 Mark Apat || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:46.816 +1.502 || Qualify 2008/06/26
43 Hansi Josefsson || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:46.867 +1.553 || Qualify 2008/06/26
44 Mtommi Tam || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.881 +1.567 || Qualify 2008/06/26
45 Simon James || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.895 +1.581 || Qualify 2008/06/26
46 Clive Siggs || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:46.916 +1.602 || Qualify 2008/06/26
47 William Yunck || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.920 +1.606 || Qualify 2008/06/24
48 Simon Jorge Sanchez || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:46.943 +1.629 || Qualify 2008/06/24
49 Jay Adgie || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.002 +1.688 || Qualify 2008/06/24
50 Steve Emmons || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:47.005 +1.691 || Qualify 2008/06/26
52 Cheung Ting Pong || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.070 +1.756 || Qualify 2008/06/26
53 [ABSENCE]
54 David Cuthill || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:47.162 +1.848 || Qualify 2008/06/24

Group 3

55 david lemon || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.195 +1.881 || Qualify 2008/06/25
56 Lu Chan || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:47.208 +1.894 || Qualify 2008/06/26
57 Warren Dawes || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:47.218 +1.904 || Qualify 2008/06/26
58 Chris Noble || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:47.229 +1.915 || Qualify 2008/06/24
59 Luc Frachon || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:47.231 +1.917 || Qualify 2008/06/23
60 Martijn Niesen || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.275 +1.961 || Qualify 2008/06/25
61 Gilberto Estorninho || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:47.278 +1.964 || Qualify 2008/06/24
62 Jims Bong || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:47.294 +1.980 || Qualify 2008/06/26
63 Bram Hengeveld || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:47.322 +2.008 || Qualify 2008/06/26
64 marc hamel || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:47.327 +2.013 || Qualify 2008/06/26
65 jacek kozlowski || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.351 +2.037 || Qualify 2008/06/24
66 Laszlo Miskolczi || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:47.360 +2.046 || Qualify 2008/06/26
67 Oliver Amos || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:47.361 +2.047 || Qualify 2008/06/23
68 Marco Ho || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:47.377 +2.063 || Qualify 2008/06/26
69 Foxs Yiu || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:47.382 +2.068 || Qualify 2008/06/24
70 Fernando De Almeida || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:47.430 +2.116 || Qualify 2008/06/22
71 Samco Sam || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.512 +2.198 || Qualify 2008/06/26
72 Alessandro Maresta || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.525 +2.211 || Qualify 2008/06/23
73 Daniel Juncadella || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.554 +2.240 || Qualify 2008/06/23
74 Terry Harmer || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.596 +2.282 || Qualify 2008/06/24
75 Nils Wijk || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:47.596 +2.282 || Qualify 2008/06/24
76 Christophe Berton || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.606 +2.292 || Qualify 2008/06/24
77 Jamie Wilson || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.616 +2.302 || Qualify 2008/06/25
78 Karl Westman || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:47.623 +2.309 || Qualify 2008/06/25
79 Wido Rossen || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.639 +2.325 || Qualify 2008/06/24

Group 4

80 Mark A Warmington || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:47.668 +2.354 || Qualify 2008/06/24
81 Helder Assuncao || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:47.670 +2.356 || Qualify 2008/06/26
82 Antoine Morin || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:47.680 +2.366 || Qualify 2008/06/23
84 [ABSENCE]
85 Jason Lai || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:47.734 +2.420 || Qualify 2008/06/23
86 Jerome Lecomte || Alfa Romeo 156 || 01:47.756 +2.442 || Qualify 2008/06/26
87 Helder Filipe || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.764 +2.450 || Qualify 2008/06/24
88 Alan Chan || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.791 +2.477 || Qualify 2008/06/26
90 Frederic Dubois || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:47.837 +2.523 || Qualify 2008/06/24
91 Dominik Furmaniak || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.874 +2.560 || Qualify 2008/06/25
92 Paolo Mazzilli || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.898 +2.584 || Qualify 2008/06/25
94 Niklas Hjelm || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:47.952 +2.638 || Qualify 2008/06/25
95 mathieu FOLGALVEZ || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:48.041 +2.727 || Qualify 2008/06/25
96 Sidonio Moreira || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:48.065 +2.751 || Qualify 2008/06/24
97 Sébastien Poidevin || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:48.069 +2.755 || Qualify 2008/06/24
98 Julien Dufresnes || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:48.069 +2.755 || Qualify 2008/06/26
99 Anibal Moreira || Alfa Romeo 156 || 01:48.140 +2.826 || Qualify 2008/06/25
100 Mehmet Arikan || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:48.166 +2.852 || Qualify 2008/06/26
101 Esa Kuusisto || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:48.197 +2.883 || Qualify 2008/06/25
102 Lasse Oinas || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:48.205 +2.891 || Qualify 2008/06/25
103 Maurice Hurkmans || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:48.231 +2.917 || Qualify 2008/06/25
104 Christian Deparis || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:48.446 +3.132 || Qualify 2008/06/24
106 [ABSENCE]
107 Jerome Benard || Alfa Romeo 156 || 01:48.610 +3.296 || Qualify 2008/06/23
108 Michael Herrmann || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:48.620 +3.306 || Qualify 2008/06/22
109 Dave Gardner || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:48.739 +3.425 || Qualify 2008/06/25
110 Robert Schon || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:48.783 +3.469 || Qualify 2008/06/24

Non Qualifiers

111 simon hedditch || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:48.837 +3.523 || Qualify 2008/06/24
112 Lucas Degen || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:49.007 +3.693 || Qualify 2008/06/23
113 Ricky Willox || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:49.087 +3.773 || Qualify 2008/06/25
114 Tobias Röhner || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:49.234 +3.920 || Qualify 2008/06/23
115 Daniel Landouar || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:49.264 +3.950 || Qualify 2008/06/24
116 Olivier Hercek || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:49.556 +4.242 || Qualify 2008/06/23
117 Gaynall Hudgins || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:49.561 +4.247 || Qualify 2008/06/26
118 Jose Ferreira || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:49.764 +4.450 || Qualify 2008/06/23
120 Jens Piskorsch || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:50.099 +4.785 || Qualify 2008/06/26
121 Yassen Pavlov || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:57.837 +12.523 || Qualify 2008/06/26



Absent


34 Ramon van Rijn || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:46.559 +1.245 || Qualify 2008/06/23
35 Wietse Visser || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:46.582 +1.268 || Qualify 2008/06/25
53 Truls Flatland || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:47.148 +1.834 || Qualify 2008/06/24
84 roy stevens || Honda Accord Euro R || 01:47.723 +2.409 || Qualify 2008/06/26
89 Raino Priha || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:47.804 +2.490 || Qualify 2008/06/24
93 Ross Balfour || BMW 320si E90 2007 || 01:47.950 +2.636 || Qualify 2008/06/24
106 AnthonyHilton || SEAT Leon 2007 || 01:48.584 +3.270 || Qualify 2008/06/25
119 Eckhart von Glan neu || Chevrolet Lacetti 2007 || 01:49.950 +4.636 || Qualify 2008/06/24


Disqualified for Round 5, Estoril
Alvaro Mourato - not reporting absence for Round 4
Darren Martin - not reporting absence for Round 4

[Christopher Aponte]

top post updated

[Lam Kam San]

I have inform that i will be absent in last race!!!! but i didnt use my cpu to inform, because my cpu have a problem, i use my friend cpu (Lam Kam San) i have said to bram that i will be absence, because of my cpi can not conect to the steam! But now u come to said that i havent inform to the RD, that i will absence???? AND NOW ALL OFF U SAID THAT I HAVE TO STARD IN THE RND OF THR GRIP"

[Bram Hengeveld]

Have you said to me that you are absent? Pretty strange since i am not a race director this year.
Everybody should know by now that you report absenses by sending an email. We have announced it several times the last months (and we keep continueing).

So one more: no emails = no absense

[Warren Dawes]

Grids are finalized!

[Bram Hengeveld]

Thread closed, do not report it on the forum but send it to: absences@racedepartment.com

[Jens Piskorsch]

please delete this, thx

[Danny Pattiwael]

Think you missed the timezones there. The race starts at 20:00 GMT, that means 22:00 CET

[William Yunck]

Do we get some green, a lot of green, or no green? What will be allowed?

[Maik Peters]

Thats a good question ... There was a exception on Estoril...
What exception do we get here?

[Attila Domján]

T1 exit green stuff usage allowed, just as in real life, but do not touch the sand (anyhow you do not want it lol)

[Simon Trendell]

Good news, as I've always avoided using it and now I can go mad :banana125:

[Mehmet Arikan]

Originally Posted by Attila Domján

T1 exit green stuff usage allowed, just as in real life, but do not touch the sand (anyhow you do not want it lol)

why i'am fan of beach-boys :banana011:

[Steve Emmons]

Surf's up!:party0036: